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		<title>Relais Routiers: Oh, to Be a Trucker (in France)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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A lot has been made of the glory and diversity of America&#8217;s road-foods by such hit US TV shows as Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives, which, if you haven&#8217;t seen it, features a bleach-blond moron traveling the highways and byways of this great nation gorging himself on deep-fried hamburgers, the world&#8217;s spiciest chicken wings, and platters of [...]]]></description>
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A lot has been made of the glory and diversity of America&#8217;s road-foods by such hit US TV shows as <em>Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives</em>, which, if you haven&#8217;t seen it, features a bleach-blond moron traveling the highways and byways of this great nation gorging himself on deep-fried hamburgers, the world&#8217;s spiciest chicken wings, and platters of barbecue so big you could almost hear his car&#8217;s shocks wince. He then jumps back behind the wheel and steps on the gas to make it to the next neon-signed heart-stopper before his cholesterol level has the chance to drop below 300.</p>
<p>As you may have inferred, I am not overly impressed by this show or others like <em>Man vs. Food</em> that marvel at just how gluttonous and boorish the host can be. Perhaps it&#8217;s because I frequently over-eat and then avoid looking at myself in the mirror, but in the same way as I don&#8217;t favor shows featuring close-ups of young fools guzzling booze, like, say, <em>The Real World</em>, I also don&#8217;t enjoy watching some fat guy shoving 4 pounds of pancakes down his pie-hole surrounded by the cheering obese. I find it all, shall we say, sorta gross.</p>
<p>On a more serious note though, if such shows are truly representative of the best road-food in this country, and were I an American truck-driver, I would fear for my health. I know from personal experience that driving isn&#8217;t one of the more healthful occupations given the innumerable sedentary hours in the cab, but when the majority of truck-stops offer only greasy fast food, you can be pretty sure that expecting to to enjoy a long and healthy retirement after 40 years in the game may be optimistic. <span id="more-1220"></span></p>
<p>We mentioned our appreciation for the fare offered at Italian truck-stops a couple of years ago &mdash; noting with joy and surprise in equal measure that one can get beer or wine to accompany, amongst other things, fantastically fresh panini &mdash; but our recent trip to France has re-opened the debate over which country we&#8217;d prefer to be a trucker in. </p>
<p>Known as <em>routiers</em>, French truck-drivers have a reputation for gruffness and industrial action. Rarely a year passes in which they do not blockade the Channel Tunnel or the <em>autoroutes</em> around Paris with blazing oil drums to protest rising fuel prices, increased tolls, or out of sympathy with the similarly militant French farmer. Having driven in France, one sympathizes with their complaints over the miserable state of fuel and tolls, but if there is one facet of Gallic truck-driving life about which they cannot complain, it&#8217;s road food.</p>
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<p>Perhaps to compensate the routier for his hard life behind the wheel, the weeks away from his family (and it almost always is a him), and the hours of solitude, in true French style, there has grown up a nationwide network of restaurants that principally cater to him: the <a href="http://www.relais-routiers.com/">Relais Routiers</a>. The <a href="http://www.routiers.com/">French trucker network</a> makes sure that wherever he may find himself, from the city to the countryside, from Flanders to Gascony, the hard-working driver can get a three-course meal with wine and a shower without having to resort to such desperate measures as his American (or British) counterpart and settle for fast-food. In fact, a handy pocket-guide is published annually to help them find these often out-of-the-way places.</p>
<p>And therein lies the rub: rather like the average Frenchman who will happily spend an hour of his precious Sunday driving out to a tiny <em>auberge</em> hidden in the hills to support the cooking of a particular chef, the French truck driver will always go out of his way to arrive at a Relais Routiers around noon. And why not? They serve excellent, often regional, food at the correct price that has him returning every time he&#8217;s passing by. </p>
<p>But to many throughout the provinces of France, the Relais Routiers are more than just a truck-stop. They are the local restaurant, watering-hole, social club and informal town hall &mdash; the locus for ties that bind the community together. And like local businesses everywhere, owners of Relais Routiers know their clientele well enough to understand that their customer&#8217;s loyalty to a restaurant is only as strong as its loyalty is to their stomachs and pocket-books. Consequently, they offer reliably good, honest food. Indeed, in these thin times, and with the advent of so many pretentious, expensive eateries causing the collapse of local bistrots across France, some commentators have called Relais Routiers the guardians of the nation&#8217;s cuisine. This might be slightly unfair to the Paul Bocuses and Daniel Bouluds of this world, but like a good pub in Britain or quality diner in America, you simply know where you are with a Routiers. You know what to expect and while your expectations might rarely be exceeded, they are always met, and familiarity and comfort are what most people seek most of the time.<br />
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Until comparatively recently, the laws governing alcohol consumption and driving in France were less than strict, and it was perfectly normal for a routier to wash his three course meal down with an aperitif, half a bottle of wine and a digestif (all except the digestif being included in the price) before breezily climbing back into the cab of his 10 ton machine and trundling off. These days the <em>carte routiers</em> still includes three (sometimes four!) generous courses, but with the booze sensibly capped at a 1/3 bottle, often served in a small jug that looks touchingly dainty in the nicotine-stained hands of blue-chinned trucker. </p>
<p>When we visited Auberge St. Martin &mdash; a Relais Routiers on the RN31 in Pontarcher, Ambleny, between Compiègne and Soissons in the Oise department of France between Christmas and New Years &mdash; our delicious three course lunch and half-carafe of house red plus coffee set us back an astonishing 22 euros ($29) for the two of us. The charge of one euro above that levied on many of our fellow diners was due to our inability to flash our routiers membership card.<br />
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The <em>Carte Routiers</em> had its customary three options that day, a choice of two starters, two mains and two desserts: a charcuterie plate (containing slices of the local specialty, andouillette, or tripe sausage) or pork rillettes, followed by <em>poulet Basquaise</em> (Basque-style chicken with peppers and onions in a spicy sauce) or <em>biftek</em> (rump steak with french fries), and <em>fromage blanc</em> (a delicious thick natural yogurt) or <em>assiette de fromage</em> (cheese plate) for dessert.</p>
<p>The food was simple and delicious, and the service prompt and informal. The sole problem we encountered was in following directions to the bathroom which appeared to lead to the bar, but in fact directed you outside to a separate door where the shower was located. The most enlightening aspect of the whole experience &mdash; quite apart from note penned on the menu listing a shower for 2 euro or 3 euro with a towel &mdash; was that this place really did a lot of its business with truck drivers. Outside, packed tightly together on the muddy verges of a country road were 10 or more giant trucks, and glancing around us more than half the diners were sitting quietly by themselves, sleeves rolled up to reveal a bevy of tattoos, breaking their midday bread in companionable silence. We looked at each other and both said, almost simultaneously, &#8220;this would never happen in America.&#8221; It was a moment of sincere cultural recognition on our behalf, and we raised our glasses to toast these heroes of haulage and their continuing role as custodians of the nation&#8217;s table.</p>
<div class="recipe"><strong>Postscript:</strong><br />
I should have mentioned, as some readers pointed out, that Alton Brown&#8217;s  <em>Feasting on Asphalt</em> series on the Food Network brought much-needed attention to many of America&#8217;s excellent road-food places. In some ways, I willfully ignored these and made a false comparison between France and America by only focusing on the dearth of good eateries along America&#8217;s interstates while specifically discussing eateries scattered around the back-roads of the French countryside. As Alton says, &#8220;Steer clear of freeways. You will never see, hear, smell, feel, or taste anything interesting on an interstate.&#8221;</div>
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		<title>Au Pied de Cochon: Intimidation, Defeat and Probable Bypass Surgery</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
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Gentle readers, please sympathize with me, for I, like a man who&#8217;s been dining exclusively on centipedes, have the bitter taste of defeat in my mouth. That this humiliation and defeat arrived, to twist a metaphor, at the hands of nothing more sinister than a pig&#8217;s foot, has only served to exacerbate these feelings of embarrassment and self-loathing.
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<p>Gentle readers, please sympathize with me, for I, like a man who&#8217;s been dining exclusively on centipedes, have the bitter taste of defeat in my mouth. That this humiliation and defeat arrived, to twist a metaphor, at the hands of nothing more sinister than a pig&#8217;s foot, has only served to exacerbate these feelings of embarrassment and self-loathing.</p>
<p>Those of you already somewhat familiar with our body of work here at We Are Never Full may know that we are always ready to face down even the hardiest gastronomic challenges, frequently with all-to scant regard for liver, waistline and coronary arteries. It&#8217;s a kind of culinary cockiness and machismo that, strangely enough, we find so odious in TV food tools like Guy Fieri. I sincerely hope that this foolish trend, which continued during our recent trip to Montreal, has no lasting repercussions on our health.</p>
<p>Having heard about the restaurant <em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.restaurantaupieddecochon.ca/index_eng.html" title="Au Pied de Cochon">Au Pied de Cochon</a></em> (literally, at the foot of the pig) and its joyful, some may say reckless, use of duck and pork fat (&amp; offal) in the preparation of traditional French and Quebecois dishes, plus several unique heart-stopping creations, we figured that it sounded like the kind of place we should visit.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;a green salad tossed in warm, duck-fat vinaigrette and topped with a fritter of trotter mush&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The red sign near the entrance cautioning patrons to be careful on the greasy floor should have been taken as warning, as should the glazed and listless gazes of departing patrons. Heedless, we proceeded to order the sliced tongue and the crispy PDC salad as starters. The former, which was beef tongue, sat nicely in our comfort zone. Meltingly tender and served with a butter-finished veal stock sauce and garnished with sliced cornichons for a texturally-satisfying crunch. We were intrigued by the latter when the waiter explained that it was basically a green salad tossed in warm, duck-fat vinaigrette and topped with a fritter of trotter mush. Yes, that&#8217;s right &#8211; the nerves, cartilage and natural gelatin from the pig&#8217;s foot, mashed together and seasoned, then breaded and deep-fried. Not a salad for dieters, but amazing tasting, wonderful mouth-feel, with the prince of vinaigrettes.</p>
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<p>That we had ordered mains after this was our first major mistake, and the second was that one of them happened to be the pied de cochon with foie gras. (The fact that the other was a large tranche of foie gras with a side of poutine (more on this in a later post) barely registered.) Few are the times in my life that I have had a plate of food put in front of me and I have suddenly felt weak, timid and overawed &#8211; even at the most trying times I usually soldier bravely on before leaving the table bloated and sweaty &#8211; but, on this occasion I was defeated the moment I was served.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;like the governor of a provincial state thrust into the spotlight of CBS News &#8230; I was suddenly way out of my depth and performed pathetically, embarrassing myself in the process.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Never before have I even seen a plate of food that large for one person, let alone been prompted to eat it. It was gigantic. The pigs foot was large &#8211; maybe a foot long - and deep-fried, though that of itself caused little consternation as it was mostly bone, and was topped with a 4oz slice of seared foie gras, again, excessive, but perhaps not fear-inducing exactly. What really intimidated me was that the trotter sat on an inch-deep bed of creamy mashed potatoes and between two foot-long trenches &#8211; for that&#8217;s what they were &#8211; of button mushrooms and spinach in a cream and butter sauce. I would estimate there were two 6oz boxes of button mushrooms plus a cup of cream on the plate, and the whole thing must have weighed about 5lbs and could have served six adults. What was I to do in the face of such magnitude?</p>
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<p>You&#8217;re right, I could have plowed in and tried to eat it all, and then admitted defeat gracefully later on. I could also have harangued the waiter for not giving me any idea of what a fool I was making of myself, but frankly, my spirit was broken. You see, I&#8217;ve always managed to perform creditably at the table before, even if I have ultimately been overwhelmed, but, like the governor of a provincial state thrust into the spotlight of CBS News for the first time, I was suddenly way out of my depth and performed pathetically, embarrassing myself in the process.</p>
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<p>As these photos attest, I was barely able to make a dent in it, and in truth, it was my wife who ate the lion&#8217;s share. I had been psyched out and failed to regain my composure. Some would say, with good reason, that it was a shameful waste of food, but I prefer to think of it as a lesson in humility.</p>
<p>Indeed, chatting with the maitre d&#8217; later on over calvados (one of the few things that can cut through thick layers of duck fat) I learned that this was Martin Picard, the owner&#8217;s, dastardly plan for this dish, — that no-one who orders it leaves unscarred. Everyone is dominated by it and no-one gets anywhere near cleaning their plate. So confident are they at Au Pied de Cochon of their ability to manifest gluttony so vaingloriously that they number every deep-fried pig&#8217;s foot they serve. Mine was 5141. So from now on, like a retired GI with a talisman made of shrapnel, I shall wear that number with pride and humility, in place of a hospital bracelet during the bypass surgery I expect to now need.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.restaurantaupieddecochon.ca/index_eng.html">Au Pied de Cochon</a><br />
536 avenue Duluth Est<br />
Montréal, QC H2L 1A9, Canada<br />
(514) 281-1114</p>
<p><strong>Check out some other posts you might enjoy:</strong></p>
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<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.weareneverfull.com/quickest-meal-to-make-ever/">Quickest Meal to Make&#8230; Ever</a> &#8211; Pasta con Tonno</li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.weareneverfull.com/another-easy-meal-tortilla-soup/">Authentic Tortilla Soup</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.weareneverfull.com/hot-toddy-weather-and-no-mistake-okay-one-mistake/">South African Hot Toddies</a></li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Warning: some readers may find the subject matter of this post disturbing. 
An article in the latest issue of Gourmet magazine addressed the oft-ignored, but very real, dilemma of the carnivore that is the slaughter of animals for human consumption. We touched on this issue briefly a while back in a post on Provencal rabbit stew as [...]]]></description>
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<p>An article in the latest issue of <em>Gourmet</em> magazine addressed the oft-ignored, but very real, dilemma of the carnivore that is the slaughter of animals for human consumption. We touched on this issue briefly a while back in a post on <a target="_blank" href="http://www.weareneverfull.com/eating-the-easter-bunny-and-our-first-podcast/" title="Provencal Rabbit Stew">Provencal rabbit stew</a> as I had a succession of rabbits as pets growing up and initially found it difficult to decide if I could eat rabbit given these very friendly relationships in my formative years &#8211; what my sister refers to as the dilemma of whether or not to &#8220;eat your friends.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this <em>Gourmet </em>article, two Brooklynites go shopping in search of goat meat in order to recreate some goat tacos they&#8217;d eaten in northern Mexico. After searching high and low for the cut of goat they need to re-produce this dish authentically, they end up at <a target="_blank" href="http://madanihalal.com/" title="Madani Halal">Madani</a>, a <em>halal</em> butchers in Ozone Park, Queens, and there, they witness the slaughter of their chosen goat in the traditional <em>halal</em> method of throat-slitting, and subsequently, they experience some philosophical issues relating to mortality, meat-eating and the preparation of the goat tacos.</p>
<p>For a rather more comprehensive discussion of the ethical slaughter of animals, check out <em><a target="_blank" href="http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2008/06/22/halal-the-original-ethical-meat-eating/" title="EatDrinkBetter.com">Halal: The Original Ethical Meet Eating</a></em> at EatDrinkBetter.com where the gist of the piece is that halal-style slaughtering methods are the most humane to be used anywhere &#8211; showing as they do proper and due respect to the animal before, during and after its death.</p>
<p>Never having witnessed the killing of an animal for food using halal, kosher or any other method, and therefore not knowing the look in its eyes as the knife is drawn across its throat, nor having watched the life (and blood) ebb out of it, I was both fascinated and made a little fearful by this article. For me, it wasn&#8217;t that I had a sudden ethical problem with the killing of animals for food &#8211; far from it, in fact, it brings me great delight on a daily basis that animals are killed so I can eat them &#8212; rather I felt that I should also witness, first-hand, the death of at least one animal that was to play an important role in my dinner in order that I too could appreciate this sacrifice in all its horrific reality.</p>
<p>Little did I know that within hours of having read this article I would be faced with almost exactly this opportunity. And, when I say almost, I mean that whereas the guys in the <em>Gourmet</em> article only watched while someone else dispatched their goat, in my case, I was to be cast in the role of the grim-reaper.</p>
<p>Regular readers of this blog who look at our photographs carefully may have noticed a certain black and white (a so-called &#8220;tuxedo&#8221;) cat loitering in the background, paws poised to take a swipe at whatever&#8217;s in focus should our backs be turned momentarily. This is our cat Windsor and, being our cat, she is a gourmet and a gourmand in every sense of the word that is applicable to felines. A lover of all things dairy (including a recent obsession with the Italian hard cheese Piave), Windsor has a well-rounded palate and is just as likely to nibble on avocado and tomatoes (she is also an <em>amateuse</em> of mushrooms sauteed with garlic and parsley) as she is to be tempted by pieces of fish skin and lamb bones, and of course, this pleases us no end that our pet shares our hobby (and, to a degree, our waistlines).</p>
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<p>However, we are not so enamored when her tastes expand to feral beasts. Indeed, several are the times when we have been awoken before dawn on a spring day to the pathetic, plaintive final shreiks and whimpers of some unfortunate sparrow hatchling that Windsor has been tormenting. After which she continues this agonizing soundtrack serenading us with cheerful and proud meows to alert us to her macabre victory over a defenceless prey. This is the cue for yours truly to drag himself out of bed and step very carefully through a dark apartment &#8211; now littered liberally with tiny feathers &#8211; into the kitchen to retrieve the dustpan and brush in order to usher the late creature to its final resting place as respectfully as I am able to at 4am.</p>
<p>So it was with an extreme sense of foreboding last week when my wife called me at work in the late afternoon to tell me that Windsor had outdone herself and had left us an altogether larger gift this time. Happily, she had left this one outside our back door, probably because she couldn&#8217;t carry it inside.</p>
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<p>It was a large grey squirrel &#8211; about two or three pounds (1 &#8211; 1.5 kilos) in weight, I would guess. Fully grown with a large bushy tail and some very serviceable-looking buck teeth. The kind of urban squirrel that we had been cursing as vermin for months for digging up everything we planted in our small garden regardless of the amount of chicken wire we tried to protect it with. Ironically, it was precisely the same kind of squirrel that, because of this, we had been trying in vain to encourage Windsor to be more territorial about and go after.</p>
<p>The moral of this story, though, is not be careful what you wish for. No, it&#8217;s actually make sure that when your cat does what you want it to and brings you the animals you&#8217;ve been telling it to deal with, that said animals are actually dead. This one was gravely wounded but had certainly not yet shuffled off its mortal coil, and it was this liveliness that so bothered my wife. After all, what the hell do you do with a half-dead squirrel?</p>
<p>Hurrying home on the subway, I wasn&#8217;t able to come up with a good answer to this question. It seemed to me that the easiest (and most cowardly) approach was to hope that at least Windsor had done enough to mortally injure the squirrel and that it would succumb to its wounds mercifully soon. However, were this not to happen, I was left to wonder just how long I could mentally deal with the fact that a kind of cute squirrel was dying a slow and agonizing death just steps away from where I was trying to sleep.</p>
<p>When I got home however, one look at the stricken creature gave me my answer &#8212; I could probably sleep quite well, or if not well, then certainly better than if I had to dispatch the thing myself. My wife though, ever my moral compass, directed me towards a heavy snow-shovel and suggested invitingly that I &#8220;be a man about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I shall spare you, gentle reader, the finer details of just how I sent the poor squirrel off to meet his maker, but suffice it to say that both Windsor and I could learn a lot about humane methods of slaughter should this situation recur. If it did, not only would it occasion a great and heroic blog post about killing ones own food, but it would also necessitate an investigation of recipes for squirrel, the idea of which for now, at least, rather turns my stomach&#8230;</p>
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